Good post! I don't think the wt could be less faithful and discreet.
All Christians are to be faithful and discreet slaves of Jesus.
who is the real faithful and discreet slave?
he ceases to exist once the meeting is over;.
he ceases to exist once the meeting is over;.
Good post! I don't think the wt could be less faithful and discreet.
All Christians are to be faithful and discreet slaves of Jesus.
i know that this was covered in 1993, but with newer technology and lots more pictures to deal with....go check out this website.
http://www.watchtowerlies.com/watchtowerlies_019.htm.
if no one wants to believe these as real then check it out in our own literature.
I have to post on all the subliminal images posts. It's merely pareidolia. It's the same phenomenon that occurs in ink blot tests, seeing objects in the cloud, or seeing Jesus face in a piece of burnt toast. Do the mirror image thing on any piece if artwork and you will find evil faces everywhere. Same phenomenon as seeing images in the folds of clothes. Yet people keep falling for this conspiracy theory.
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most of what jehovahs witnesses know about the hebrew bible, more commonly referred to as the old testament or the hebrew scriptures, is simply not so.. they know much that aint so because they live in an insulated world where their references to it are prolific, giving them a false sense of familiarity.. they also know too little because theyve allowed others to read and interpret it for them through the filtering lens of an unchallenged theology.
their knowledge is based on misconceptions created by their own rigid theology.. but what about you, "do you think the old testament is a book about the divine delivering eternal truths?
Funny. When this thread started I could have scripted the way it would go. Especially mp's posts.
so, i have it on very good authority that a co has recently been disfellowshipped in the uk.
he has just finished serving the north west london area.
i don't know any details but perhaps there is someone who does know what happened.
Funny how the rumor mill works here too. Everyone just assumes he got caught with his pants down. Jws like to gossip.
" for the time is come for judgment to begin at the house of god: and if it begin first at us, what shall be the end of them that obey not the gospel of god?
and if the righteous is scarcely saved, where shall the ungodly and sinner appear?
"- 1peter4:17-18. why for god to judge his own house?
Kos seems to be hanging on to the majority of wt theology. Works based salvation. Those that do not believe as be does are in trouble from god. Etc... I e noticed that in many of kos's posts there is a lack of scripture, yet a large amount of grandios talk of truth. He appeals to "many scripture" that go into his understanding, yet is unwilling to discuss them. I don't even try anymore. I hate saying it...but I have to call "troll"
i'd just like to see who here has served at bethel, including myself.
this may be useful for those that have specific questions about bethel, but don't know who of us actually served there.
could we hear from those that served at bethel and where you served?
I never visited any of the other branches. Are they just as strict as us bethel? I assume they would be. Do all branches sign vows of poverty? Are there guidelines for how much money you are allowed to make doing g jobs?
it just all hit me at once,i was with a friend earlier talking and i felt really good after our talk.
went down my moms,and wifey text me she going to meeting,and all this stress and anxiety hit me all at once.
this crazey it consumes my mind and no my body.
Unstop, I've been where you are many times as well. It's absolutely horrible. But remember, this too shall pass. Funny, Big Bang theory always makes me feel better too. Also how I met your mother. Try to get your mind off things for a bit.
One of the most important pieces of advice is to mainly focus on your love for your wife right now. Stop trying to get her to see ttatt for now. Give her a lot of love. God will open her eyes in his own time. And it may be without your direct help. Pray for the peace that He can give you. I'll be praying for you as we'll brother! Hang in there. Breathe...
so, i have it on very good authority that a co has recently been disfellowshipped in the uk.
he has just finished serving the north west london area.
i don't know any details but perhaps there is someone who does know what happened.
I'm sure the rumor is NOT apostasy. I'm sure the rumor is that he was involved with a wild 30 person sex orgy. Or perhaps he began using heroin? Never because he held to bible beliefs that weren't in line with the WT.
i'd just like to see who here has served at bethel, including myself.
this may be useful for those that have specific questions about bethel, but don't know who of us actually served there.
could we hear from those that served at bethel and where you served?
You saw what you needed to see to later connect the dots. At a gut level, you saw things that were WRONG, there. I surely did.
If assholes could fly, Brooklyn Bethel would be an international airport. (Not trying to say everyone was like this, but the ratio was pretty high.)
No truer statement. While not ALL of bethel was a horrible experience, most of it was. The other night I was sitting in the car going over my whole bethel experience in my head. I'm not sure you can even describe living there to someone who hasn't. At one point it is easy because so many of your physical needs are covered. There really isn't much in the way of bills (besides paying for your commisary bill and phone bill each month...mine was always HUGE). But you're kept off balance the entire time. It's a fantasy world. I expected to be at bethel when the GT broke out.
At the same time, I never felt like I fit in. I knew a ton of my friends that felt the same. I remember talking to someone on my crew about it and he loved it. The tight schedule. The endless rules. The feeling of being in the middle of something powerful. But I never did. I think I was there for 6 months when someone told me that I didn't fit in very well. They told me I was on the edge. I was a rebel. I tried to get away with things all the time. No sleepover guests? I'd sneak em in. Not even because i wanted to, but because I needed to do something that made me feel human.
Anyway! Sorry to bring my own thread off topic again.
i'd just like to see who here has served at bethel, including myself.
this may be useful for those that have specific questions about bethel, but don't know who of us actually served there.
could we hear from those that served at bethel and where you served?
LWT: That may be a little too broad. I left bethel as a serious doubter, yet still believing that somehow it must be God's organization. I left thinking that maybe I was the problem.